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…okay, I don’t know why you felt so compelled as to tell me that, and believe me, I don’t wanna start a crazy debate right now either (just a healthy one ^^;) but yeah man, you’re about to get a little lecture from me because I take my ninja turtles VERY SERIOUSLY.
I think one of the most important things to keep in mind is that 2k12 IS a reinvented show. It’s reinventing all the past continuities and throwing them together. It’s being made by fans, for fans. A lot of the people working on it, like Ciro Nieli (the director) and Greg Cipes (voice of Michelangelo) grew up on the 80s series - Rob Paulsen, the 2k12 voice of Donatello, voiced Raphael in the original 80s cartoon. Nolan North, who voices all the Kraang droids, also voiced Raph in the 2k7 movie. Etc., etc. What the show is trying to do is take the best of the best from all previous tmnt incarnations - everything from the Mirage comics to the 2k3 series - and present them all in one place in a way that still feels fresh.




It’s no easy task to please everyone, especially when the writers have nearly 30 years of lore to juggle, but for what they’ve done so far I think they’ve been doing a pretty decent job.
On the flip side, I do agree with you in the sense that I recognize the 2k12 series isn’t a perfect show! It has it’s own flaws (like any other tmnt comic, movie, show, etc.), and it has its own strengths and weaknesses when you compare it to any past continuities, like any other version of the turtles. Believe me:
there are episodes that have bored me
Baxter Stockman, who was a formidable villian in 2k3, has been turned into a pathetic excuse for comic relief in this series
I had a few problems with the season one finale
some characters like April and Mikey sometimes get the short end of the writers’ stick because, I don’t know, they’re just not utilizing or developing their characters in a way I (and plenty of others) think they should
The show has it’s problems, I get that. I still enjoy it nonetheless!
I know that saturday morning cartoon feeling, and that’s probably because the target audience are young kids. It favors the humor aspect more often than not. Not much you can do about that. But the show does have its fair share of darker episodes, like The Pulverizer Returns.
And as an illustration/animation student, you *are* going to get told about my take on the quality of the animation and art style. I’ve seen a good handful of CG-animated kids shows that cut a lot of corners, but I don’t believe this tmnt is one of them. The show does a lot as far as texturing and mixed media goes; if you looked closely enough, it does indeed implement some 2D-animated elements into it from time-to-time!! Take a look:









There are also some sequences that are fully 2D-animated (often flashbacks) that are made to look like motion comics:





Yes, the show is mostly CG animated, but I honestly think that mixed media animation is a better way to describe it. The development team takes the best of what 2D and 3D has to offer, and puts them together.
And as for the comment that the fighting sequences feel robotic…I honestly feel a little sorry that you feel that way, because:




2k12 even implements slow-motion sequences every once in a while. And the only other CG animated kid’s show that I’ve seen that’s done that (to my knowledge), is Transformers Prime (also a very good show!!)


TL;DR - If you’re a fan of previous tmnt incarnations and aren’t feeling 2k12 so much, just give the show a chance. It’s not a perfect show (what show is?), but there are plenty of things in there that it does well. And you may surprise yourself if you just stick with the whole season. Or you may remain unimpressed, which is fine! But I’m still going to remain a strong advocate for the latest incarnation, that’s all. I grew up on the 2k3 series, and one of my most favorite things this show is doing is that it’s raising a new generation of turtles fans ^^ and that’s all that matters, right?
/mic drop

okay, I don’t know why you felt so compelled as to tell me that, and believe me, I don’t wanna start a crazy debate right now either (just a healthy one ^^;) but yeah man, you’re about to get a little lecture from me because I take my ninja turtles VERY SERIOUSLY.

I think one of the most important things to keep in mind is that 2k12 IS a reinvented show. It’s reinventing all the past continuities and throwing them together. It’s being made by fans, for fans. A lot of the people working on it, like Ciro Nieli (the director) and Greg Cipes (voice of Michelangelo) grew up on the 80s series - Rob Paulsen, the 2k12 voice of Donatello, voiced Raphael in the original 80s cartoon. Nolan North, who voices all the Kraang droids, also voiced Raph in the 2k7 movie. Etc., etc. What the show is trying to do is take the best of the best from all previous tmnt incarnations - everything from the Mirage comics to the 2k3 series - and present them all in one place in a way that still feels fresh.

It’s no easy task to please everyone, especially when the writers have nearly 30 years of lore to juggle, but for what they’ve done so far I think they’ve been doing a pretty decent job.

On the flip side, I do agree with you in the sense that I recognize the 2k12 series isn’t a perfect show! It has it’s own flaws (like any other tmnt comic, movie, show, etc.), and it has its own strengths and weaknesses when you compare it to any past continuities, like any other version of the turtles. Believe me:

  • there are episodes that have bored me
  • Baxter Stockman, who was a formidable villian in 2k3, has been turned into a pathetic excuse for comic relief in this series
  • I had a few problems with the season one finale
  • some characters like April and Mikey sometimes get the short end of the writers’ stick because, I don’t know, they’re just not utilizing or developing their characters in a way I (and plenty of others) think they should

The show has it’s problems, I get that. I still enjoy it nonetheless!

I know that saturday morning cartoon feeling, and that’s probably because the target audience are young kids. It favors the humor aspect more often than not. Not much you can do about that. But the show does have its fair share of darker episodes, like The Pulverizer Returns.

And as an illustration/animation student, you *are* going to get told about my take on the quality of the animation and art style. I’ve seen a good handful of CG-animated kids shows that cut a lot of corners, but I don’t believe this tmnt is one of them. The show does a lot as far as texturing and mixed media goes; if you looked closely enough, it does indeed implement some 2D-animated elements into it from time-to-time!! Take a look:

There are also some sequences that are fully 2D-animated (often flashbacks) that are made to look like motion comics:

Yes, the show is mostly CG animated, but I honestly think that mixed media animation is a better way to describe it. The development team takes the best of what 2D and 3D has to offer, and puts them together.

And as for the comment that the fighting sequences feel robotic…I honestly feel a little sorry that you feel that way, because:

2k12 even implements slow-motion sequences every once in a while. And the only other CG animated kid’s show that I’ve seen that’s done that (to my knowledge), is Transformers Prime (also a very good show!!)

TL;DR - If you’re a fan of previous tmnt incarnations and aren’t feeling 2k12 so much, just give the show a chance. It’s not a perfect show (what show is?), but there are plenty of things in there that it does well. And you may surprise yourself if you just stick with the whole season. Or you may remain unimpressed, which is fine! But I’m still going to remain a strong advocate for the latest incarnation, that’s all. I grew up on the 2k3 series, and one of my most favorite things this show is doing is that it’s raising a new generation of turtles fans ^^ and that’s all that matters, right?

/mic drop


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